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  1. To All Shareholders,
    We are at a serious crossroads! We have invested in a startup that promised the world to us horseplayers. That ultimate dream we have all harbored in our minds for so long; we have yearned, hoped and dreamed of beating the races consistently and to actually earn long term profits! We are so close that it would be almost criminal to back away at this juncture. I am aware that we all have been dismayed by the amount of delay and the difficulties involved in getting this rocket ship airborne. But, the jump from V1 to V2 increased the rate of return on bets by 20% across the board without even considering exotics. Susan believes that we can increase our Win% by ten percentage points within six months! We are on the precipice of achieving a Rate of return of 20% or more!
    These dividends will occur without any of us lifting a finger and will go on and on and on. Think of your children and grandchildren
    who could benefit from this!
    This is a Startup company. Sometimes the goal is a little more difficult to reach that originally thought; but, we are so close! Don’t let frustration prevent us all from achieving a phenomenal goal. Please, help us continue to strive toward V3 and contribute what you can. WE are in this Together and we will reap the rewards Together, but only if we survive! We will be there in 3-6 months with everyone on board, but we need those who can to dig a little deeper! We will be rewarded many times over!
    Thanks, Susan, for all you have done! You have given us a chance to realize a big dream coming true!

  2. Hi All,
    I did a similar search of SOs with ML odds of 9-2 and 5-1. The results were not as good as other groups. There were 952 races with 207 wins for a 21.8% but the Roi was $0.90. Cost was $1904 and the return was$1709.
    This does bring up a couple of points for discussion, however.
    ML odds and Trainer grouping were the only avenues by which I could navigate thru so many races. If I had chosen to do 5-1 and 6-1 together, they would have broken even, instead of 6-1 being positive and 5-1 negative. However, the trend is still apparent that the program does terrific in selecting SOs with high odds. ML odds makers are not known for much. Their skills vary (as indicated by wild swings in actual prices) and for the most part they are as proficient as local weathermen were 30 years ago.
    These numbers were generated by the program without any additional handicapping such as speed or pace. Within each odds range there are losing streaks and winning streaks, so money management is important. However, there is no doubt that over thousands of races this program offers great opportunities to achieve success betting horses, just as Susan promised. Using these selections in exacta, trifectas, etc., should bring home the bacon for us all. Of note also is that some trainers, if not all, will have different ratings depending upon the race. Pletcher can be an A trainer with a 99 rating in one race and a B in another race with an 85. Grouping them does not exclude them from being in another group. There are overlays in every Group and in every ML odds group as well. In general, many top trainers are over bet but not always. If anyone has input on how to analyze, I’m all ears.
    Pete

    2. Hi,
      It’s me again!
      I have results for SOs with ML odds of 7-2 and 4-1. From 6/20/22 to 1/31/23 there were 1462 horses. 415won for a 28.4% and an Roi of $1.05. I will do the place numbers for these tomorrow and then recap by listing all the odds categories with % and Roi in one short statement. However, I must say that it’s truly something to realize these numbers with no speed, pace, or pedigree stats. This is amazing but can only get better. This is playing the game with the equivalent of no track take! Even a little better when the short odds group (under 2-1) are not included. There are many good bets in that group as well, but many serious underlays that should never be bet.
      Pete

    3. I have finished tallying the results for 7-2 and 4-1 ML odds SOs from 6/20/22 to 12/1/31/2023and the results are terrific. Win numbers were 415 out of 1462 for 28.4% with an Roi of $1.05. The place numbers were 805 out of 1462 for 55% place and an Roi of $1.06.

    4. ML SOs under 2-1 for all trainer groups ran 1637 races. They placed 77% of the time for a cost of $3274 with a return of $3093 which is an Roi of $0.945. You will recall to win those horses were 1650 races with 810 wins for 49%with an Roi of $.0875.Tony, this is for all trainer groups.

      1. Hi All,
        I researched a little (6/20-6/30/2022 about SOs which were also favorites. There were 278 horses in those 11 days. 138 won for a remarkable 49.6% and the Roi was 0.974. While this can be seen as breaking even, there is definitely a way to profit here. There were so many at very low odds, 2 to 5, 3 to 5, etc.; that just eliminating them would yield a profit. Any horse that was a co-favorite was included in this group as a favorite. I will continue to analyze them but just wanted to share this now!

        1. Hi again Pete, is there any betting strategy that you are using constantly to show a profit, I’m having a hard time showing any kind of constantly with my betting. Thanks Anthony

  3. More good news! First, let me share my findings on Standouts (hereafter SO) with ML of 2-1. There were 808 of them and 327 won for 40.4% and an Roi of 0.95. SOs with a ML of 5-2 and/or 3-1, well, there were 1662 of them and just over 35% won for a return of 0.95. The total results for Win bets was break even so where the hell are the profits?
    ML 6-1 526 SOs with 113 wins 21.5% with an Roi 0f 1.10. Not Bad!
    ML 8-1 395 SOs with 89 wins 23.1% with an Roi of 1.26. OK!
    ML 10-1 to 15-1 342 SOs with 61 wins 17.8% with an Roi of 1.29! Voila!
    Place bets on these critters were 510/1263 for 40.4 % and an Roi of $1.14 and Show bets were 657/1197 for 54.8% and an Roi of $1.11.
    I just found the page where I listed Show bets on 15-1 SOs and they were $1.09 Roi so that’s why the number of races in show was a little different. All told a WPS $2 bet on all would cost $7578 and return $8733. Profit $1155 on $2 wagers!
    I will continue to analyze the 7-2s to 5-1 SOs but I wanted to share the good stuff and congratulate Susan on what we have here.
    Thanks Tony, Dennis and Dave. I appreciate your support and am glad to help.
    Pete

  4. Pete I really appreciate you breaking this all down, very big help, I’ve been playing the horses for over 40 yrs but been having trouble finding the right formula to bet, thanks for your in put. I also have been using Dr. Robert anththony’s smart bet professional formula as a money management and it’s keeping me above water. Thanks again Tony

  5. Excellent. Exciting and Thank you Pete for sharing.
    I’m certain everyone appreciates your going inside the numbers like this.
    Woo Hoo Indeed!!!

  6. I have good news but be patient. The following are the results for all horses with ML under 2-1 by trainer group.
    Group A: 1104 races cost 2208 Return 1910 with 548 wins 49% Roi 0.87. Group B: 289 races cost 578 Return 553 with 151 wins 52%. Roi 0.96. Group C 177 races cost 354 Return 298 43% Roi . 0.84. Group D 80 races cost 160 with Return 127 44% Roi 0.79. Totals 1650 races with 810 wins 49% Roi 0.875. The good news comes when you deduct those races from the 8089 Standouts and the result is 6439 races cost 12,878 Return 13289 29.5% Roi 1.03. a positive return with no handicapping! But that’s just the beginning. I don’t have specific numbers but I will by tomorrow this time and in Susan’s language WHOHOO! As the ML goes up, so do the Profits!

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